Dormont Police Cracking Down on Illegal Parking

Dormont police blotter, Sept. 21 to Sept. 27.

Dormont police are cracking down on illegal parking in the borough, and plan to issue more citations for people parking on sidewalks, parking on the wrong side of the street and in “no parking” zones.

“It’s not that this hasn’t been done in the past, but we’re making it more of a priority,” said Officer Jim Burke. “Especially with inclement weather just around the corner, we want to curtail the illegal parking issues.”

Burke said parking on the wrong side of the street adds an inconvenience for drivers who must navigate around them, but more importantly, it also can create a dangerous situation when emergency vehicles can’t get around them. Salt trucks also are too wide to navigate narrow streets with cars parked on both sides.

“I live in this town. I understand that some of the streets are narrow and parking is tough,” Burke said. “If the residents have driveways or garages, we’re encouraging them to utilize those.”

Also in the blotter:

Sept. 23

  • Randy McKinney, 58, of Dormont, was arrested for public drunkenness behind R Bar on West Liberty Avenue at 1:53 p.m. He was held at the Dormont police station until he was sober.

Sept. 26

  • Several small items were stolen from the CoGo’s on Potomac Avenue around 5 a.m. According to the police report, two young men came into the store and asked the clerk for several different brands of cigarettes. When they left, the clerk noticed that two packs of cigarettes, as well as containers of iced tea and bags of potato chips had been stolen. Dormont police are reviewing surveillance footage from inside the store.

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segxr7 October 01, 2012 at 03:14 PM
Good! I've had to call the police 3 times in the past year because of assholes parking in my driveway, or on the street in front of it. Seriously, how inconsiderate do you have to be to park at someone else's house and prevent the people who actually live there from getting in or out?! Maybe if there's a crackdown on illegal parking, people will stop just leaving their car wherever they want (I'm not holding my breath, though).
John Spoon October 01, 2012 at 04:53 PM
There are some people on my street whom park half in the road because they cant parallel park and if the spot is too small they just leave their cars sticking out. We've complained to the boro about the sidewalk parking. If one of those big trucks bust up my walk and crack a pipe its me paying the bill.
Bobby October 01, 2012 at 05:42 PM
This is a great thing I just read, but I have heard and have seen them ignore this problem time and time again. Parking will always be a problem in our borough. The more people that are told to park in the driveway, just means that the person that does not have a driveway can park even more of their cars on the street. It is just math, number of houses number of parking spots. I know on my street, and I am sure that it is happening on every street, there are people who have multiple cars and no place to put them. So there are only so many spots on the street, and many people park anywere they want. Sidewalks, crosswalks, in front of stop signs, on the corners, wrong side of street, just about any place they want. The vehicle code which is what they should be using to ticket these violations is not being used. They are ignoring the code, and use this as a for instance. If you park on the wrong side of the street up on the sidewalk it will only cost you probably TEN dollars instead of over a hundred dollars. The parking in Dormont is looking more and more like the parking in the city. And that is wrong also. I know that not everybody has my view, but how is the system working now You can only be accommodating for so long, time for action is now.
Ed M October 01, 2012 at 06:16 PM
I don't care if people don't park in their driveway. Just please enforce the illegal parking. It happens daily in my neighborhood.
Bobby October 01, 2012 at 06:41 PM
Ed my point is that no matter what the people with driveways do, the people who park illegally do so no matter what. With little or no concern. Not to mention that the people with driveways are probably paying more in home price and taxes, so I can see them not feeling sorry for others.
Drew Lehman October 01, 2012 at 08:13 PM
Bob, I know that you have been asking for this to be done since before I got on council. Kind of amazing that this is a story?? The issue, as Ed has said before, is enforcement. You CAN'T see it if you DON'T see it, simple as that. The article says “It’s not that this hasn’t been done in the past" .... You step up patrols when you have a spike in occurrences, well in this case It's been going on for years.
Lisa October 01, 2012 at 08:15 PM
I am guilty of parking on my sidewalk- with room for people to pass. Parking is limited where am I supposed to park? People DON'T use thier off street-especially if it is behind the house, or DON'T park in thier driveways because they dont want to block thier other car in. It is inconsiderate. It forces those of us WITHOUT drives and off street to park where???? On the sidewalks and wrong sides of the street. I can't park in my neighbors unused space behind thier homes if they are on the street infront of my house. God for bid they leave and come back and need to use the otherwise unused spot and I am in it. But it is ok for them to park on the street and take up spaces those of us that need them can use and leave owned spaces vacant??? I have a young child and I dont want to- especially in the winter- park blocks from my home not that I can find a space on any of the other same zones streets either. There are a couple appartments on my street so there are way more cars than there are spaces to begin with and the people who CAN park off street and don't force the rest of us to park illegally. Everyone here seems to be happy and acts like they have never had to park this way?? I don't believe it. I am not saying it shouldn't be inforced. I dont WANT to get parking tickets, but sometimes I have no choice but to park illegally because others are inconsiderate to the fact that we dont all have off street parking to use and should be using it if they have it!
dormont backdoor October 01, 2012 at 08:26 PM
So glad to hear from you again Drew Lehman. Hear you are running for mayor. Maybe when you become mayor you can really whip that police department into shape. But wait, didn't you strip any oversight the mayor has over the police department?
Drew Lehman October 01, 2012 at 08:41 PM
DB, the reason that stuff like this goes on in our borough unabated is because people like you ignore the elephant in the room (lax enforcement) to take pot shots at someone who cares enough to speak up. Theres a lot of you on here that don't have enough guts to use your real name. Get your head out of the sand.
Lisa October 01, 2012 at 08:57 PM
Robert, $10 or $15 i can reluctanly handle if I HAVE to park on my sidewalk. If tickets were over a $100 would you let me park in your driveway and shuttle me and my child to our home to avoid the ticket?
Lisa October 01, 2012 at 09:09 PM
Maybe the number of useable off street spots per house should be on file and people with off street spaces should not be permitted to buy on street passes?? Since they would rather pay $10 a year to park on the street then walk around the house. But it isn't the chioce of us without parking to pay $10 a year for a pass AND $10-$15 everytime we have no where legal to park.
Ed M October 02, 2012 at 02:33 AM
This isn't about people not using their off street parking! It's about enforcement! And since Dormont is not that big, enforcement should not be that hard!
Lisa October 02, 2012 at 10:30 AM
Ed, it goes hand in hand. You all think if they ticket more it will stop illegal parking. I am saying as, some one who does not have off street parking, I sometime have no choice but to park illegally. I know i'm going to get a ticket. But there isn't another option. I have 3 neighbors in a row to my right that have off street spaces and don't use them. I parked in one once and she was quick to knock on our door and tell us to move. $100 tickets would be a deterance, but then where do you suggest I park. Your driveway?
Ed M October 02, 2012 at 10:48 AM
Lisa, I don't have off street parking, either. Remember, the streets are public which means anyone (unless you live on a permit street) can park there. Some people are ignorant. You can't justify illegal parking because someone isn't parking in their off-street spot.
Lisa October 02, 2012 at 11:03 AM
Well then were do you park? There are 3 apartment buildings on my street and one on the next corner. Several more down the next block and the street behind me. I circle blocks with no legal space to be found especially if I come home late, even the meters at the end are taken. Where should I put my car? If my 3 neighbors used their spaces maybe I would have an onstreet spot. I know the street is public, their private spaces are not so I can't use them. It would be nice if they did. Them not only makes the situation worse than it already is...
Mike October 02, 2012 at 12:59 PM
Have you tried talking to your neighbors? You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.
John Spoon October 02, 2012 at 01:29 PM
Just curious, are you new to the area or did these apartments just open? One thing I looked for when I moved here was parking and if a house didn't have a garage/driveway/car port I didn't look at it. Just because you can't find a parking spot doesn't justify doing something illegal. By doing so you accept the penalties that come with it. I'm sure there is parking somewhere, it just may not be as close as you want it. Should you have to hike it? Well that's relative. You knew moving there that parking was a premium. Does it suck? Most likely. I'm not trying to be mean here but lets be realistic. Talk to your neighbors and see if they can move their cars or you can borrow a spot. My street isn't like a 50's sitcom but they have all been nice when it comes to needing a spot they may have available.
John Spoon October 02, 2012 at 01:32 PM
Drew, I don't think its lack of guts as it is a fear one of these whack jobs will go find someone's address and take this offline and make it personal. You're a public figure so I give you all the credit in the world for being upfront.
Lisa October 02, 2012 at 02:14 PM
I was rather new to the area when I bought my home yes. We bought a home in Dormont because we like the area. The house was affordable and we were a young couple starting out. We were unaware of the parking being such an issue. Honestly in the 6 yrs we have been here its seemed to have gotten worse. I don't have the means to Move just because of parking. Since the streets are zoned no I cant park just anywhere or i will still be illegal if they check tags. The apartment on the corner has space behind it for tenants. They don't use them either. They aren't numbered, we parked there once and got a note saying not to or next time they would have us towed. The neighbor that asked us to move was concerned that IF she left she would need the space, but didn't offer to move her car off the street for us. I have no issue with my neighbors- unless it comes to parking then its every man for them selfs...
Lisa October 02, 2012 at 02:20 PM
Again I am not saying I shouldn't get a ticket or that I wont pay it or that I don't avoid it when I can. I am saying that just because they give more tickets doesn't mean the illegal parking will end. The problem is bigger than that.
Ed M October 02, 2012 at 02:23 PM
I park on the street. The only time I seem to have trouble is if I come home late at night. It has gotten worse. There are more cars than when I moved to Dormont over 30 years ago.
Bethany October 02, 2012 at 04:49 PM
I'm just grateful that it is being addressed. Thanks Dormont Borough folks for all that you do.
Bobby October 02, 2012 at 07:39 PM
Lisa, There are so many issues with what you are doing. Lets start with how do you park you car on the sidewalk, you must jump the curb. The curbs are the boroughs responesibily, in witch we must pay for. Now lets say that you jump the curb maybe one house away and you get off one house away, now that is three houses that are supporting the weight of a vehicle. None of the sidewalks are ment to carry the weight of automobiles. The sidewalks are the property owners responsibility. And that does not mean you are the only one doing this, plenty of people are in violation of this statute witch carries a fine of I think is 175.00. That is a number witch I am sure will make people think twice about parking on the sidewalk. Now lets address the people that are inconveniced by your actions. I no you said that you park on the sidewalk but you leave enough room for people to get by. Are you really? People with disabilities need a space of 36 inches to get by your automobile, most people will park more than 12 inches on the sidewalk, not to mention the shrubs and bushes that impose onto the sidewalk. And let's not forget the people with strollers and children on bikes or skateboards not to mention the general public. So I sure that you think I am wrong in my thinking or that I am just plain being mean, but I have been fighting with the borough for the rights of the disabled for at least 15 years. So no matter how much I fight if you car is on the sidewalk it does not matter.
Bobby October 02, 2012 at 07:53 PM
Lisa, sorry for my spelling mistakes. Lisa I think from you letter that you live on Illinois Avenue. I have lived at two different locations on Illinois Ave. Why does your location on Illinois not have off street parking if most of your neighbors do? I think your problem is not with people like myself, it's with people in the apartments. I can only imagine that for every apt. there are probably two automobiles. So I think that is your fight.
Lisa October 02, 2012 at 08:06 PM
Bobby, I was under the impression that the curb and sidewalk in front of a home were the home owner responsibilty. As I have been led to believe by my few neighbors that have replaced their sidewalks and actually place things on them to prevent people parking. I only park infront of my own home for that reason. I try to leave as much side walk as I can but to keep the street open as well. I too have a child and have walked around cars because as you said I am not the only one doing this ( which should just back my argument that the limited parking is an issue and not just me whinning or being lazy.) I try to be as considerate as I can always, Trust me I do. and as I keep saying, parking on the sidewalk is NOT my first option, I avoid at all costs. Everyone can tell me how wrong I am and how i should pay ( and I do trust me I did last week) but no one can tell me where to park when there are no spaces that are not private in a 4 block area... They are just seem to think more tickets will solve the problem... this I doubt, all it means is more money for the boro!
Lisa October 02, 2012 at 08:14 PM
lol. that is ok I have spelling mistakes, I am sure. It doesn't matter really what street I live on, but I do not have a space to put my car in. it is the way it is. Digging out yards or into Hills or Building walls is a very pricey thing to do that then leads you to possible permit issues as well, and is not an easy solution. The apartments are a big part of the problem. 2 people I knew in apartments near by that never had cars have since moved and are filled with 2 car families. BUt there is no where to put more spaces, I can probably walk down my street right now and pick out 4 or 5 cars that could be off street and aren't. and I could almost promise you this street will have at least 4 cars illegally parked tonight. But how am I to "fight" with any of these people who are already obviously doing what they want and are quick to use those available spaces if they are the ones to come home to a full street?
Lisa October 02, 2012 at 08:17 PM
Unless there is some space, areas, lots - which we all know there aren't- that can be used to make more public/resident lots through out the area, I just see this being a never ending battle with no more than some increased revenue for the Boro and more bitter parking wars.
DormontMOM October 02, 2012 at 08:38 PM
Seriously people you moved here, grew up here, parking has always been an issue and always will be. We have no space,we could of had a parking garage on West Liberty, instead we have a PARK to NOWHERE. Really who wants to sit on West Liberty and look at traffic or a bar. People will park illegally and guess what they may get a ticket. They will pay it and if there is no place to park they will do it again. You don't like the parking issue in Dormont, move to Mt Lebanon where you aren't allowed to park on the streets. Ticket enforcement won't change a thing! Peolpe who don't care still will break the law. I will continue to walk a block to my car but that's ok because I chose to live here. But I will say I am a great parallel parker! It is what it is...
John Spoon October 03, 2012 at 06:09 PM
There's a feature in "'Dormont Delivers" app that was released where you can report improper parking. Lisa, you might want to watch out for this.
Bobby October 03, 2012 at 07:50 PM
Lisa, I really do feel bad for your situation, but if you are committed to your location, you are going to want to make changes. The people in the apts are not likely to be long term at your location. So that means that you should look for a remedy. Maybe you should look to maybe digging out your back yard. That is something you can do to remedy the situation. And in the long run you will get your money back, in less tickets and it will also up the value of your house in the event that you would ever sell. But like I said earlier there are many reasons not to park on the sidewalk.


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