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Pitcher Park Group Volunteers Make Progress on Memorial Drive Tennis Courts

Volunteers with Pitcher Park and the Mount Lebanon United Presbyterian Church spent the week working on the Memorial Drive tennis courts. Next is resurfacing the courts and installing nets. The work is being done to bring a skate park to Dormont.

 
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Contractor Chris McGee takes a break from jack-hammering a corner of the Memorial Drive tennis court on Friday afternoon. McGee will bebuild the corner, which has eroded because of poor drainage.
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Related Topics: Pitcher Park, Skateboarding, Tennis, and Tennis Courts

Leah Petrilli

6:18 am on Monday, July 18, 2011

Wow its really starting to shape up nicely. Lookin' good! :)

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Ed M

8:00 am on Monday, July 18, 2011

It's about time something was done with this eyesore. Thank you Pitcher Park and Mt Lebanon UP Church volunteers!

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no_skate_park1

11:12 am on Thursday, September 29, 2011

who is running for council that is opposed to the building of the skate park? i want them to have my full support.

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Ed M

11:42 am on Thursday, September 29, 2011

Why are you against the skate park?

no_skate_park1

11:53 am on Thursday, September 29, 2011

a skate park will not improve my neighborhood. a skate park will reduce the quality of life in my neighborhood.

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Ed M

2:21 pm on Thursday, September 29, 2011

What facts are you basing this on?

xxxxx

12:23 pm on Thursday, September 29, 2011

The skate park is not in your neighborhood, it is down by the pool. Years ago the area across from Memorial Drive was designated as a multi purpose park, which included skate boarding and your lovely neighbor Dee Krugh was on that committee and she didn't argue the purpose of the area.. So had the comprehensive plan been put in place, you would have skateboarders across from your house. WHen the Castle playground was built the arrogant people who used to live across from the park said the same ignorant things that the anti skateboarders are saying. Once it was built we did not have the problems everyone said we would. Believe it or not there were other communities that came to Dormont asking how the park was built.

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Daniele Ventresca

1:40 pm on Thursday, September 29, 2011

So the people against the Castle Playground were saying that a park does not fit into Dormont (despite the fact that a park was already there)? Were they also asking why tennis courts were being destroyed and replaced with inferior courts (no, cause that did not happen either). Leigh, the majority of people against this skate park are against it because it does not fit in Dormont. It literally does not fit - you have to take existing recreation away to accomodate this skate park. That does not make sense to me and many others. Let's focus on cleaning/fixing up our existing rec facilities that have fallen in to disrepair (i.e. the rec center, tennis courts on Banksville, the Castle Park, Beggs Snyder Park, etc).

no_skate_park1

12:32 pm on Thursday, September 29, 2011

lol, please do not tell me what constitutes as my neighborhood. the quality of life in my neighborhood will be directly impacted if this skate park becomes a reality. are you implying that parents of the skateboarders will be accompanying the skaters as the parents do with the younger children do at the castle playground? because i do not see any parents hanging with the kids that skateboard in the pnc parking lot.

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Ed M

2:24 pm on Thursday, September 29, 2011

Gee Daniele, all those you listed are in good condition! They were in disrepair but one of our former borough managers who was worth their salary got grants to get all that taken care of!

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no_skate_park1

2:41 pm on Thursday, September 29, 2011

Ed
2:21pm on Thursday, September 29, 2011

"What facts are you basing this on?"

more traffic, both automobiles and pedestrian traffic will come to the park. more traffic equals more garbage.

right now as it is i already have to pick up garbage (fast-food bags/wrappers and soda bottles/cups) that passerby's dump on my street. will my duties to keep my neighborhood nice will be reduced with influx of more people (basically kids) coming to the area? i think not.

plus these pictures someone took are fact enough for me
http://www.flickr.com/photos/40956383@N02

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Ed M

2:48 pm on Thursday, September 29, 2011

Have there been studies done on these? Where are they so I can check out your facts? Or are these just your opinion? Did you feel the same way about Castle Park? Did auto and pedestrian traffic increase? Did the litter go up? How do the rest of the people on Memorial Drive feel? Do they like looking at that eyesore of an old dilapidated tennis court across the street?

no_skate_park1

3:14 pm on Thursday, September 29, 2011

yeah i did my own study when i was picking up garbage off the street last week. want me to call you so you can see it first hand next time? castle park was built (almost a decade) before I decided to make dormont my home and i love how it attracts responsible parents and children. will parents be accompanying their kids to the skate park? because I do see any parents with the skaters who hang out in the pnc parking lot.

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no_skate_park1

3:21 pm on Thursday, September 29, 2011

* because I do NOT see any parents with the skaters who hang out in the pnc parking lot.

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Ed M

7:24 am on Friday, September 30, 2011

I've lived in Dormont near Beggs Snyder park for over 30 years and the foot and auto traffic has increased due to the improvements to the park and the park being used more! This is not a bad thing.

Now, since the skate park hasn't been built yet, where is that garbage coming from that you are picking up from the Memorial Drive street?

When you were 13 years old, did your parents accompany you everywhere? Are there a bevy of parents who accompany the kids who currently use the tennis & hoops courts?

Drew Lehman

4:06 pm on Thursday, September 29, 2011

Some people need to chill. I don't like when people get angry and hostile towards Council, the Manager etc., so lighten up on the skate park. If you really want to have an impact walk around Dormont and collect signatures on a petition and make it specific- (As a Dormont resident are you opposed to removing existing recreation facilities, replacing them with inferior facilities and adding a skatepark to the area where the tennis courts are currently located) Get involved, not angry.

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Ed M

7:26 am on Friday, September 30, 2011

I don't see anyone bashing Council in these comments, Drew. Let's stick to the topic not a political agenda.

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Drew Lehman

8:17 am on Friday, September 30, 2011

Ed, I was using the hostility towards council as an example. I am refering to the negative comments about the skate park.

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Ed M

8:37 am on Friday, September 30, 2011

Thanks for clearing that up Drew.

HNDormont

4:45 pm on Thursday, September 29, 2011

I have to say, I had misconceptions about the kids who use skateboard parks myself. But my daughter (13 year old) has been very into the pop/punk music scene in the last year or so and I have accompanied her to multiple conerts. These kids who attend the concert or are the performers at the concert are the same kids that you see frequenting the skate parks, and I was blown away by their kindness to each other, their polite manner to each other and adults that they come into contact with. Yes, they have multiple piercings, tattoos, wear odd clothes and have strange haircuts. But they are for the most part, very decent kids who I would rather see my daughter pal around with than the kids who wander aimlessly around Potomac all evening long, sitting on the corner of the street and making fun of other kids who walk by.

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no_skate_park2

10:00 am on Friday, September 30, 2011

why is the skate park not being proposed to be built at the beggs snyder park near your house then? heck i might even support that.

the garbage dumping by non-residents has been a problem, I noticed, when I moved in before the skate park was even an idea.

so few, to no parents, will be accompanying the 13 year old kids to the skate park and the kids will act as primary management to self-govern their own behavior? if the 13 year old kid's self-managing skills fail, who is going to step in and take responsibility to make sure kids aren't are not misbehaving?

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Ed M

10:33 am on Friday, September 30, 2011

That would be fine with me if the skate park was at Beggs Snyder!

Are you positive the garbage dumping is by non-residents?

Who takes responsibility for this age groups behavior at the park now?

Define misbehaving, no_skate_park2.

no_skate_park2

10:55 am on Friday, September 30, 2011

the garbage dumping is a problem, regardless of residential status to the person committing the act. if you increase traffic in an area then the frequency of litter will increase.

who takes responsibility for the age group now? I don't know because, again, the kids who skateboard in the pnc parking lot are without parental supervision.

For your last request, invest in a dictionary.

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Ed M

11:20 am on Friday, September 30, 2011

Well, if garbage dumping is a problem now, it sounds like that should be addressed post haste so when the skate park goes in there is a plan to handle what could be an increase in the garbage dumping. BTW, since Beggs Snyder Park is used a whole lot more, there hasn't been an increase in garbage dumping.

I wasn't referring to the youth who skate in the PNC lot. I was referring to the youth who use Dormont Park for other activities. How are they supervised now?

What misbehaving means to me may be different than what it means to you.

no_skate_park2

11:37 am on Friday, September 30, 2011

or they could build the skate park out your way and then i will not have to hear empty promises about the garbage issue if this skate park becomes a reality.

like i said before the youth at the park are governed by their parents.

this is the reality of skate parks and what pitcher park will look like in 5 years
http://www.flickr.com/photos/40956383@N02

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Jeffrey Fabus

11:51 am on Friday, September 30, 2011

Begg Snyder Park is in Mt. Lebanon, as is much of the property at the old Kelton School site. Are there any adults supervising the kids who currently use the basketball courts or play football in the park? If there is a trash problem you should contact the borough building. I love how people stereotype skateboarders as drug addicts, alcoholics, tattoo wearing body piercing smoking deadbeat litters. I have been involved in youth sports for years and I can tell you for a fact that kids who play baseball, basketball, football, cheerlead and softball are all doing the same thing but because of their athletic status in schools, no one points these things out.

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HNDormont

3:33 pm on Friday, September 30, 2011

I have to agree Jeff. And who says that the defacement of the parks in the pictures posted by no_skate_park2 was done by the skaters? ANYBODY can go on public property and do such a thing. Such stereotypes. What a world we are teaching our kids to live in, huh?
And as far as the youth at the park being governed by their parents, well I certainly hope so! They are all kind of little to be left to their own devices. I personally can't stand when I see young teenage kids hanging out at the park meant for little kids. It annoyed me when my daughter was small and I would take her and the 13 & 14 year olds were just sitting on swings, hanging out talking when all the little kids were waiting to ride on them. I told my 13 yr old I expect better from her. the skate park would be a welcome addition for the "non-jock" kids to have something to do. Not everyone is athletic and there is such emphasis on the kids who are, that sometimes the rest are left hanging.
This has all turned into such a bigger deal than it ever needed to be. Accept progress and move on.

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Leah Petrilli

6:20 pm on Friday, September 30, 2011

Jeff I found a map online which seems to prove you correct. Beggs Snyder is not showing as being in Dormont. I tried to upload it to my profile page here but my skillz are weak! This is a link to where I found the map:
http://www.city-data.com/city/Dormont-Pennsylvania.html
And actually if this boundary map is correct it appears that only a tiny corner of the pool is actually in the boundary of Dormont? And before you ask, yes I do have my reading glasses on! :D

Ed M

1:37 pm on Friday, September 30, 2011

Actually, Jeff the old Kelton school site is in Dormont.

Sounds like the empty promises are coming from the perceived notions you have no_skate_park2. And I thought, according to your previous post, the garbage problem was from non-residents.

Excellent points Jeff.

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Jeffrey Fabus

4:19 pm on Friday, September 30, 2011

Ed someone once told me that if you stand at the intersecition of Eastmont and Kelton and draw a straight line up th Mississippi ave at the top of the hill, one side is Lebo, the other Dormont. They could have been wrong.

dormont backdoor

2:18 pm on Friday, September 30, 2011

Mr. Fabus,
I hear that certain residents along Memorial Drive opposed the batting cages and the castle playground. Is this true? If so, then it appears these residents just do not want any recreation on or around this street. The park belongs to the borough and to not update recreation with changing times does not show how we are a progressive community which will attract new homeowners.

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mary pitcher

2:40 pm on Friday, September 30, 2011

Got the post made by Heatherwv thank you!

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xxxxx

3:56 pm on Friday, September 30, 2011

dormont backdoor, the residents across from the park have opposed the castle playground and the batting cages. I am not sure if the residents along Memorial have opposed them.

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mary pitcher

5:25 pm on Friday, September 30, 2011

The following was sent to Council, the Mayor, the Manager, the Rec Director today:
FYI
Wheeling Skatepark was built 4-5 years ago. It was donated by a Mother from the area with a son who skateboards, simply so he could have a place to skate.

Grindline designed their skatepark as well.

I urge you to contact: Mr. Thomas Bechtel Head of Parks & Recreation in Wheeling
304-234-3641

He had been the head of recreation in Wheeling for over 30 years and stated he is willing to talk to any government official who would like to ask him questions or hear about the skatepark and how it has effected their city.

He stated he would gladly come up to speak at a council meeting

Sincerely,
Mary Pitcher
Pitcher Park Memorial Skatepark

Also: You can contact John Steibrick who is the Manager of South Park and ask him about litter or other problems within the skatepark area. His phone no is: (412) 835-4810, 4809, 5710

Also: For information on the city of Pittsburgh Skateparks i.e McKinley please see:
http://www.city.pittsburgh.pa.us/parks/skateboarding.htm for a number listed to call.

The city of Zeilienople has approved a skatepark in their park as well. Contact Mary Hess Councilwoman (724) 493-7522 or the Boro Mgr there Don Pepe 724-452-6610 x 223 and ask them why they think building a skatepark is a good idea.

Also: Call Erie... Jill Chiccarino Beck 814/870-1204 about their skatepark and see what they say.

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mary pitcher

5:34 pm on Friday, September 30, 2011

BTW : I did not send below sincerely to council...but I have personally talked to people involved with skatepark facilities.,,,,, many different people.

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Daniele Ventresca

6:42 pm on Friday, September 30, 2011

Did you speak with any communities that ripped out existing, heavily used recreation facilities to make room for their skatepark?

mary pitcher

6:51 pm on Friday, September 30, 2011

We will be donating a full size basketball court to replace the half basketball court which is not very safe to play on at all due to a curved slope in the surface.... but it has been used for years that way. I am sure the new full sized basketball court will be appreciated and heavily used as well.

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Daniele Ventresca

7:11 pm on Friday, September 30, 2011

So you have not found any other communities that have been so short-sighted to remove rec facilities that are heavily used and replace them with something that the community has very little need for.

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Zandy Dudiak

7:08 pm on Friday, September 30, 2011

Daniele and Mary, I'd suggest that someone call Howard Davidson or Chris Blackwell in the Penn Hills municipal planning department. They replaced an aging tennis court with a skateboard park in a small park next to a school. They can probably speak to how it worked there.

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Daniele Ventresca

7:30 pm on Friday, September 30, 2011

Zandy, that is not quite the same thing going on in Dormont. We are actually getting rid of 3 newer courts and being forced to go back to using 2 aging courts that were abandoned as tennis courts 25 + years.

mary pitcher

7:42 pm on Friday, September 30, 2011

Actually Danielle, a while back (2 yrs ago & I would have to look at an old notebook) I talked to a community (and I am not suggesting this but you asked) who tore out an aging pool and put in a sprinkler park and a skatepark. They told me it was the best thing they ever did!

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Christi

12:27 am on Saturday, October 1, 2011

I have a question regarding the skatepark. Not sure if this has been discussed or not, so I apologize in advance if this has been answered. Will Pitcher Park be a free skatepark, or will it be generating some kind of revenue? I am also curious as to where the money will come from when repairs will need to done to the skatepark. I assume it will need to be repaired frequently to keep the park safe for all skaters. I'm not thrilled about the placement of Pitcher Park, I do think there are a host of problems with that choice. I only hope this works out, and doesn't become something that all involved end up regretting.

Christi Anderson

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mary pitcher

12:56 am on Saturday, October 1, 2011

Hello Christi,
Pitcher Park will be a free facility for all that will be completely donated to the Borough. It is a cement skatepark & repairs are minimal to this type of skatepark. Quite honestly, the third site location is great as it is very visible and on a site already designated as recreation.
If you would like to, please call the Wheeling Parks Director (number above) and ask him if they have ever regretted building their skatepark.
Thanks for asking!

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Daniele Ventresca

8:58 am on Saturday, October 1, 2011

Christi, you can also Google "skateparks closed due to vandalism" and get about 4,500,000 hits in .10 seconds. While I am sure not every hit relates to the topic, there is some interesting reading. If this park does get built and vandalism does become a problem, Dormont could potentially have a huge eye-sore at one of the main entrances to our town. In terms of maintenance, Mrs. Pitcher was recently quoted in an article reporting that she has $20,000 in escrow for park maintenance. It is surprising to me that one would put money aside for repairs before raising even 10% of the funds needed to build the actual park. Then, of course, there were the empty promises made by this group to replace the existing 3 tennis courts. Instead our community will be getting two 40+ year old courts (with a minor facelift) that were abandoned long ago because they were old and in very bad condition. Your concerns are valid Christi and have been brought up by many residents at many council meetings only to be brushed off or have empty promises made.

Ed M

9:41 am on Saturday, October 1, 2011

Dormont had a huge eyesore in the old tennis courts until this project came up. Now the courts are being revamped and made usable again.

And you can Google "skatepark successes" and you get about 1,600,000 hits!

Nice cheap shot Daniele. By putting the money in escrow shows good faith. It really helps if you know what you are talking about, Daniele.

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