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Dormont's Acting Chief: Borough Never Unprotected

Richard Dwyer said disputed the mayor's claims the borough was without police protection Thursday and said his suspension—overturned by council—stemmed from his looking into ticketing dismissals.

 

Dormont’s acting police chief disputed the mayor’s claims that the borough was without police protection Thursday and said problems between him and the mayor stem from his looking into ticket dismissals.

Mayor Tom Lloyd told Richard Dwyer on Monday that he was suspended for seven days without pay beginning at 12:01 a.m. Tuesday over the incident, though council quickly reinstated him as of 8:30 a.m.

The suspension—part of ongoing squabbles involving the mayor, the administration and police—stems from Dwyer’s decision not to keep daylight officers late while the three incoming officers were at hearings in Mt. Lebanon.

Lloyd said Dwyer should have kept one or both daylight officers on with overtime pay. Dwyer said he’s trying to curb overtime.

Dormont is part of a mutual-aid agreement with the South Hills Area Council of Governments and officers from area municipalities can be in the borough within minutes, Dwyer said Tuesday during a news conference.

“We back them up. They back us up,” he said. “The Borough of Dormont is never without police presence … It’s all set up through dispatch. It’s all automatic.”

Lloyd suggested the borough was without coverage for about 75 minutes. But Dwyer said the first officer was back at 3:20 p.m., the second at 3:37 p.m. and the third at 4 p.m.

And as for the supposed suicidal person call that Lloyd said an officer had to handle alone, Dwyer said it involved an intoxicated man at a pizza shop, but the report made no mention of suicide.

As for the mayor’s claims that public safety is paramount, Dwyer said the mayor didn’t seem concerned about a situation Friday in which an officer responded to a report of a possible attempted child abduction, yet failed to put out an alert for more than two hours.

The officer even went to lunch for before eventually putting out the alert, Dwyer said. He wouldn’t identify the officer, but when asked if the officer could be disciplined, he said “possibly.”

Dwyer said the officer explained the resident didn’t want TV crews showing up at her house, but Dwyer said the safety of borough's children was more pressing concern. And the resident's name would not have been put out.

Dwyer’s suspension had been anticipated; Manager Gino Rizza had a letter from the borough solicitor to immediately override any suspension.

Dwyer said Lloyd was upset that he was looking into ticket dismissals.

“I must have stepped on a real nerve,” he said.

Lloyd said Dwyer “can look at tickets all he wants.”

“I am sick and tired of him," Lloyd said. "He doesn’t give a damn about the borough. All he cares about is his $5,500” monthly pay.

Dwyer, Rizza and the borough solicitor maintain Lloyd doesn’t have the authority to dismiss tickets or authorize anyone to.

Lloyd maintains he does and the president of the state mayors' assocation agrees.

Dwyer said he planned on asking the Allegheny County District Attorney for clarification.

Even if it turns out the mayor does have the authority, Dwyer and Rizza said the system lacks accountability.

And the mayor still wouldn't have the authority to dismiss tickets for state motor vehicle code violations, according to Dwyer. Lloyd has said he doesn’t dismiss those, but Dwyer said he has dismissed about 30.

Rizza sent a memo Friday to the desk officers directing them to no longer dismiss tickets, regardless of what Lloyd says.

Police aren’t being sent after residents, he said, but tickets are a source of revenue for the borough, which has among the highest millage rate in the county.

Since 2010, he said, more than $30,000 in tickets have been dismissed.

Rizza said he thinks Lloyd has a personal vendetta with him and Dwyer because they've been looking into of the ticket situation.

“The mayor’s overstepping his authority,” he said.

As for Dormont’s making the news lately for the tickets, the suspension and ongoing strife involving council, the mayor and the police department, Rizza said it’s unneeded.

Dormont is a great community with great residents and businesses.

“All this stuff is a black eye,” he said.

Related Topics: Dormont, Dormont Police, Gino Rizza, Richard Dwyer, Tickets, Tom Lloyd, and dormont mayor

Bryan

8:53 am on Wednesday, August 24, 2011

“We back them up. They back us up,” he said. “The Borough of Dormont is never without police presence … It’s all set up through dispatch. It’s all automatic.”

So Mr. Dwyer admits very clearly that there was NO DORMONT OFFICERS ON THE STREETS at this time. Back up officers from other departments working on a mutual aid agreement is not the same as active patrols! Make no mistake citizens of Dormont you were unprotected and unpatrolled during this time period last week period! Dwyer knows it and is trying to spin it. He no longer wears blue! He is a crooked politician just like the council (well certain members) of it who hired him. This is BS and needs to stop! So to the four members of council who have caused all these problems which one of you will have the guts to stand for what is right? Return Dormont to the way it was, get rid of Gino because he has done nothing but destroy Dormont! Get rid of the hired gun "fake" police chief and get Dormont out of the news!

The citizens of Dormont await your response.

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Just Mom

9:31 am on Wednesday, August 24, 2011

My guess is that the agreement between the SHACOG members is to back up or help out when needed but not to cover the department because you don't want to pay overtime. I would lay money down that no other police department in SHACOG allows officers to go home prior to his/her replacement...none. To expect other communities to cover under these circumstances is abusive. And again I ask the council members that back this, next week when our children are going to and coming home from school will officers be held over to cover...is this the new policy in Dormont? Is the 2 hours of OT more important than our children's safety? Quit dodging the issue. There were no Dormont Police Officers in our community during a time when our children would have been coming home from school!

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Mrs Jones

11:13 am on Wednesday, August 24, 2011

I am sorry that someone has flagged Mike V's comments on the Patch as inappropriate, the only thing inappropriate are the facts!!! The "gender bias" not sexual harrassment suit that he mentions was thrown out of court and those bringing suit were admonished by the court for their unfounded and flagrant actions. Chief Dwyer was never suspended during any time of his Pittsburgh Police career. Wilkinsburg (spelled without an H) bought out Chief Dwyer's contract and soon after the patrolmen he identified as being sexually inappropriate with several Wilkinsburg children, plead guilty and was sent to jail and the Mayor was charged by the State Ethics Commission and fined on those charges. The one fact I found that he got right was that Chief Dwyer's son and Chief Moffat's daughter are married, I guess that does make them related!
The last Chief we had while being a good police officer was/is no Chief and before him, we had an absent chief.
Dormont wants "tradition", wants things back the "way they were" in the good old days, why don't you look around, the millage is the 2nd highest only to Wilkinsburg (spelled without an H), a small town officer makes $146,000+ and right now everyone looks like bumbling fools! I guess there can never be any harmony, but why don't we get back to the business of Dormont!

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Mike V

2:36 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011

Chief Dwyer or Mrs Jones??? you know alot about Dwyer. Some of that stuff isnt online and you have to get internal records to find out... So now we are paying the Chief $5,500 to sit online and defend himself...

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dormonter

4:13 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011

Mike V - Of course we aren't paying the acting "chief" to post on the internet. That would be outlandish! We are paying a publicist (hired by council for Rizza since he has comprehension problems and apparently can't put 2 words together himself), who is told by Rizza,who made up some story for the publicist to put on the internet. It's all good. Remember, the borough was never unprotected. Mt. Lebanon is just a few miles away. : / Your friend, Dormonter

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xxxxx

11:57 am on Wednesday, August 24, 2011

I know the comment made to Chris Carr was totally inappropriate. It needed deleted.

Dan Nephin

11:56 am on Wednesday, August 24, 2011

I'll check into comment removal. Meanwhile, check this article out: http://patch.com/A-lx2s

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Mike V

2:34 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011

if you write something against Chief Dwyer or Some council members your comments will be removed.. Gino Rizza runs this paper folks.

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Dan Nephin

2:39 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011

Rizza doesn't run this paper. Patch is an independent entity owned by AOL.
I kinda thought Dengar's comment was funny, not that I know Dengar or chris carr.

Jeffrey Fabus

3:00 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011

Since my previous post is MIA, here is something I sent to council and borough management:

Let me start by saying that I do understand what you are trying to do in reducing police overtime in order to save this borough money now and in the future as it relates to pensions. Really I do. I understand that our population in this community has dropped from 11,275 in 1980 to 8,593 in 2010. So our tax base is dropping. I understand that we do not collect a business privilege tax from the businesses in Dormont and I understand the need to have a well rounded community with a strong infrastructure. I do, I really do. I may not agree with how you are getting there but I do understand. But now, if what has been reported in the paper is correct, you have gone too far.

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Jeffrey Fabus

3:03 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011

Not only was the public put at risk by only having one office available but that officer, who puts his life on the line everyday for you and me, was at a bigger risk. And shame on you Mr. Dwyer. You use to wear the same colors as those men you know oversee. How dare you put them at risk for less than $ 100? You know as well as anyone else the risk these officers face on every call. Anytime a policeman pulls over a vehicle or is called to a home they take the risk of being the victim of some individual looking to get his name in lights. Shame on you for not looking out for these individuals you use to ride with on a daily basis.

What is it going to take for all of you to understand? An office getting shot and killed? Is that officers life worth the $ 100 you saved by not having another officer work two extra hours?

You all need to stop this BS right now before someone gets serious hurt. I know you don’t want to see any Dormont Officers names added to this list of officers who have died in the line of duty this year.

Deputy Sheriff Suzanne Hopper
Cause of Death: Gunfire

Chief of Police Ralph Painter
Cause of Death: Gunfire

Police Officer Christopher Matlosz
Cause of Death: Gunfire

Police Officer Kevin P. Marceau
Cause of Death: Struck by vehicle

Police Officer Larry Nehasil
Cause of Death: Gunfire

Detective Roger Castillo
Cause of Death: Gunfire

Detective Amanda Haworth
Cause of Death: Gunfire

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Jeffrey Fabus

3:04 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011

Police Officer Tom Hayes
Cause of Death: Gunfire

Corporal Charles Richard (Chuck) Nesbitt, Jr.
Cause of Death: Automobile accident

Police Officer Jeffrey Yaslowitz
Cause of Death: Gunfire

Sergeant Tom Baitinger
Cause of Death: Gunfire

Officer David Spencer Moore
Cause of Death: Gunfire

Corrections Officer Casimiro Pomales
Cause of Death: Automobile accident

Correctional Officer Jayme Lee Biendl
Cause of Death: Assault

Park Ranger Chris Nickel
Cause of Death: Duty related illness

And those are from January of 2011 only. Get it together people!

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Leah Petrilli

6:03 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011

Holy Missing Posts Batman. I know for sure I posted on this thread this morning and see its now MIA also Jeff. BTW..excellent post..while we can see it that is. Its sad that the value of these parking tickets are such a priority for the powers that be, and not the safety of our children or the officers or any other innocent person for that matter. What was the actual dollar amount of the overtime going to be again? Is that worth a human life? That is the question Mr. Dwyer must ask himself.
Wonder how long it will be before THIS post disappears?

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Leah Petrilli

8:21 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011

Danielle, there is also the possiblility that what is posted as "news" is more opinion and spin than fact. Honestly, I dont take everything "reported" on the Patch as hard cold irrefutable fact. Id like to see more information from other reputable news outlets on any given story and in particular this alleged child abduction. As I said there are many sides to any given story. And frankly Ive heard hide nor hair of it on any other news outlet. If anyone has Id be interested in view the article if anyone can post a link?

Daniele Ventresca

6:09 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011

Why is nobody upset that a "possible child abduction" went unreported for two hours?

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Leah Petrilli

6:15 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011

Hi Daniele, how've you been?
Im not very clear on this particular incident. Its "murky" and I think yes...more and accurate details would be welcome. I find it very serious indeed especially if this parking ticket issue or any other issue as a matter of fact is overshadowing this story. There are a variety of scenarios to be sure but a complete and accurate account would be of interest. It may be some sort of custody disagreement or what have you but still it would be nice to have details.

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Daniele Ventresca

6:26 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011

I've been well, thanks for asking. It is funny, lack of facts or accurate info has never stopped anyone from posting on this site before. I have two assumptions here, either people are not actually reading the articles or they simply overlook things that go against their belief system. I think it is a bit of both.

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Bryan

10:03 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011

Daniele:

We all look at the reported "facts" different but just because you support Gino and some of the council members does not mean what they release to the general masses is 100% fact either. That includes this abduction case.

Mrs Jones

6:37 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011

To Mike V
Sir,
When I woke up this morning, I was a woman, not Chief Dwyer or anyone related to him, when I go to bed tonight, I will be the same woman. I prefer, unlike you, to check my facts before writing fantasy and then denigrating a reputation to suit your cause! I resent that anything written that doesn't suit your needs is believed to be either Rizza or Dwyer's doing. There are people in this community who would just like the truth and the ability to make decisions based on that.

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Lorenzo

7:55 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011

School starts next Monday here in Dormont. Can they get their doo doo in order and quit playing who's on first, and who is in charge, and stop all this rediculas behavior so we can keep the kids safe ? If they short staff and it comprimises the safety of the kids just to save a buck how would you all feel then ? By the way are we still spending money on that assinine pasive park ? Can anyone fill me in on that one ?

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MSgt. John DeLallo

8:13 pm on Wednesday, August 24, 2011

Why not just hang a banner at the intersection of Rt. 19 and McFarland road. "Criminals welcomed. No police protection in force here"? You can spin this any way you like, but SHACOG mutual aid is generally for SWAT team and the response can be up to an hour. Fire departments work well together, but of course they are practically 100% volunteers, not politicians. What's it going to take? Bill Miller's close brush with death says nothing to the nincompoops on council?

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David Fabus

12:52 am on Thursday, August 25, 2011

I have to give credit to rizzo, council, the new sheriff in town and FOGAC for finally finding a story worthy of taking all the attention away from the personal vendetta they have against the Police department, Chief Ross, Sargent Burke, The Fire department and anyone else that never kissed their butts or questioned their authority. Even after the president of the Mayors association and district attorney agreed the Mayor had the power to dismiss certain tickets the circus act is still trying to use the Mayor as a scape goat. No matter how the Patch tries to spin the story to look better for them people will see through it all and show in November and January who they really support. Then the new parties involved can sit down like real men and women and figure out how to get Dormont out of the disgusting-embarassing mess they were left with and get Dormont back to being one big happy family. They won't work behind closed doors or at secret locations or forget to include some members of the team with lame excuses. Sounds to good to be true but that is how a real team works.

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time for a change

10:17 am on Thursday, August 25, 2011

Rafalena, the answer to your question is No. Bottom line is this. The mayor likes Burke and Gino does not. Never did like him since Burke arrested him 20 years ago. Now of course Dwyer does not like Burke.Their putting a spin on a call that Burke handled. So what is going to happen next? Burke will be disiplined! Gino can do whatever he wants right now to Burke because the 4 horsemen on council back whatever he does. And of course Dan and The Patch will have the story 30 seconds after it happens. Gino just can't help himself it's not in his make up. Dormont in the papers again!!!!

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dormonter

9:39 am on Saturday, August 27, 2011

Anyone else get their mail yet? Looks like the mafia has it out for the mayor. For those of you who haven't seen it yet, there is a giant postcard that says "IMPEACH MAYOR LLOYD" accusing him of ticket fixing, FBI requested to investigate him etc. and tells people to come to the boro council meetings on Monday 8/29. Hope we have lots of honest poll watchers set up for November, as this gang won't go down without pulling out every dirty trick they can think of to keep their gravy train rolling. Oh and "Concerned Residents" - don't worry, we will be at the meetings to support the mayor and to run you all out of power! What sleaze!

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dormonter

9:43 am on Saturday, August 27, 2011

And I use the term "mafia" to mean the gang of organized criminals out to get control of the boro - not as a reference to Italians in general...

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Ed M

8:57 pm on Saturday, August 27, 2011

Yup got one! Tossed in in the vertical file where is belongs.

dormonter

9:57 am on Saturday, August 27, 2011

The "Impeach Mayor Lloyd" postcard has no return address of course and they used stamps to make sure that it couldn't be traced back to a particular person. How about we check the post office to ask who bought hundreds of postcard stamps recently? No worries though. They are terrified of losing their scheme to loot the boro and take over the police dept. They will lose badly in November and they know it. They are desperate to destroy the mayor and the few others who oppose them. They Mayor knows their dirty tricks as he has seen their kind before. He will prevail as always with the support of the decent people of Dormont.

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Leah Petrilli

10:08 am on Saturday, August 27, 2011

Wow, pretty pathetic. Desperate measures for desperate times it seems. Anyone receiving one of these card should file a complaint with the Postmaster General regardless. They will open an investigation. And when they do get to the source of these mailings the person or person's invloved should be prosecuted if voting tampering and/or libel laws have been violated. And if the powers that be are thinking that the ticket issue is the focus of the public's attention. Nice try. There are far bigger issues that are important to the residents than this silliness.

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Lorenzo

10:25 am on Saturday, August 27, 2011

I personally will file a complaint with the post master general and I will personally File complaint with the civil service comission and anyone else I can come up with. And dont think for a second council will not hear from me. What disgusting childish behavior and it is slander. This was settled with the pa. mayors assoc. why will they not let it go? Im not saying we don't need to improve ticket procedures but hey the Mayor had done nothing wrong. He only stands in the way of the powers that be that wish to run this boro and yes Mafia is a great word for it. They are trying to take over public safety and the public needs to be concerned about this. Dormontor I am Italian and I take no offense to the term being used. It is what it is and that was a great referance. They look like a bunch of fools in a circus. Yea Gino you included. You can ride that donkey down west liberty with Drew.

Lorenzo

10:30 am on Saturday, August 27, 2011

By the way who's assinine idea was it to out source 911 calls to Point Breeze ? I have called 911 and thought I had the wrong number it rang over 11 times I had to hang up and call back the second time it was picked up on the 8th ring.This boro is going down the toilet how sad ! And Council thinks they can make it better ? Give me a break. Joan is the only one that makes sense she has my vote for sure.

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dormonter

10:49 am on Saturday, August 27, 2011

Interesting reading on a prior Dormont mayor's actions that were against the police, not for. However, the decision is very informative as to the mayor's legal authority. Mayor Lloyd has FULL CHARGE AND CONTROL over Dwyer whether the council ignores it or not. So if Dwyer is pissing around with parking tickets for Rizza, it is Lloyd's decision to tell him to do something else. Lloyd is the main obstacle to their complete takeover of the police department. He is a fine gentleman, however no pushover to thugs. Thank goodness! Time for Lloyd to sue the council for not allowing him to have full charge and control over our acting puppet chief?
" The mayor of the borough shall have full charge and control of the chief of police and the police force, and he shall direct the time during which, the place where and the manner in which, the chief of police and the police force shall perform their duties, except that council shall fix and determine the total weekly hours of employment that shall apply to policemen."

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/pa-superior-court/1488944.html

xxxxx

1:36 pm on Saturday, August 27, 2011

It is odd that this is starting now, or at least this year, when no other Council ever questioned Tom for doing this the past 15 years and no one ever questioned any other mayor. I guess Gino not only wants to control the police he wants even more control over the borough. He is an idiot and so are the Council people who sing his praises. Everyone complained when John was controlling the Council and running the meetings. That was nothing compared to what it is now.

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Lorenzo

2:28 pm on Saturday, August 27, 2011

I find this mailing disgusting and the simple sack of monkey dung that put it out there needs to have formal charges against them. Council is behind this thats for certain.Who else would fork up the money to create such slander ? Mailing to every house in the Boro cant be cheap, but hey the tax payers probably paid for this mess. I hope the fleas of a thousand camels infest their arm pits and a few other places as well. These are nasty vile people we are dealing with here in Dormont, and it looks like they will stop at nothing. Mayor Lloyd, fight with all you have the masses support YOU ! Dont let these mafia wannabe's think they will win for a second !

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Sandy Kaminski

2:34 pm on Saturday, August 27, 2011

The "mafia" made have under estimated just how many residents are behind the mayor and their ridiculous flyer just might backfire on them.

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dormonter

3:56 pm on Saturday, August 27, 2011

Yep, and I hope everyone turns out this Monday the 29th and Tuesday the 6th to let them know that we won't tolerate their unlawful behavior and sleaze.

Leah Petrilli

3:37 pm on Saturday, August 27, 2011

There needs to be a complete investigation as to where this mailing came from. If ANY public taxpayer money was used to fund this libelous and pathetic attack on the Mayor and our police department then the perpetrators need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Council? Do you have the courage to face the music and provide complete transparency on the boro finances and show the taxpayers irrefutable proof that no tax payer money was utilized for this? Yes, everyone show up for the meetings and demand accountability from not only your elected officials but also the Boro Manager, whose salary our tax dollars pay. I am willing to bet we hear nothing but crickets or get a blank stare as a response.

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dormonter

3:54 pm on Saturday, August 27, 2011

Another very helpful bit of the law that council is breaking is found in the link I posted above. Council CANNOT reinstate a suspended police officer, even one with no arrest powers (!) before the next regular meeting of the council. They cannot reinstate via a letter signed by a boro manager.

"In addition, the Borough Code, 53 P.S. § 46124, provides that the mayor has the power, for just cause and without pay, to suspend any police officer until the succeeding regular meeting of the borough council, at which time the council may suspend, discharge, reduce in rank or reinstate with pay the officer. "

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Go Dormont

4:45 pm on Saturday, August 27, 2011

Yes a complete investigation is in order! What a great way to spend the taxpayer money! That's using your noggin. Last I checked Dormont was part of the Unites States and freedom of the press is not unlawful. If you don't like the message, ignore it just like I ignore those public safety cut signs.

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Ed M

9:00 pm on Saturday, August 27, 2011

Correct Drew! Freedom of speech! But not libelous speech.

Leah Petrilli

5:08 pm on Saturday, August 27, 2011

There is freedom of speech and then there is libel and harrassment. And no one has stuffed a sign in your mailbox lately have they?

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Go Dormont

6:15 pm on Saturday, August 27, 2011

not lately but they did in the past - and I didn't cry harassment I ignored it. Those signs that keep popping up aren't harassment either - they're freedom of speech. I don't see anything libelous in the flyers either - care to make any specific examples or just keep using big words you don't understand?

Leah Petrilli

6:23 pm on Saturday, August 27, 2011

LOL Someone stuffed a yard sign in your mailbox? Really? Why didnt you call the police to file a report of vandalism? Just to play Devil's advocate mystery person, how would have this mass mailing gone down if it screamed "Impeach Kim Lusardi"? Or perhaps "Terminate Gino Rizza"? There would most likely be another press conference at the boro building.

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xxxxx

6:44 pm on Saturday, August 27, 2011

Yes everyone is entitled to freedom of speech, so yes people can put this flyer out but... I keep reading this flyer and it amazes me how wrong these people are. "Millions of dollars", Tom has "caused Dormont to have one of the highest tax rates in Allegheny County" "total chaos in the police department". Come on people, even my kids know how ridiculous these statements are. "the laughing stock of the South Hills." That and so many more statements can be attributed to Gino, Kim and Laurie, not to the mayor. He didn't start this bull, But it needs to end, and hopefully it will end when the elections are done and we have new people who want to change all this.

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Go Dormont

7:24 pm on Saturday, August 27, 2011

Because it isn't vandalism. And it would go down the same way....just less whining.

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Ed M

9:01 pm on Saturday, August 27, 2011

How's that investigation into who dismissed all those other parking tickets, Drew?

Mayor's Son

9:22 pm on Saturday, August 27, 2011

Thanks to our Patch supporters. Also, to everyone who has called to offer their support to Mayor Tom Lloyd. We, the family, appreciated it. Hope to see you all at the meeting on Mon. August 29 and Tues. September 6.

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Leah Petrilli

6:09 am on Sunday, August 28, 2011

ROFL! Linda, are you serious or are you just pulling our leg? If you are indeed serious wonder who paid for all of those stamps, and the printing? As long as taxpayer money wasnt used I hope it was ALOT! :D But your point about doing personal tasks on boro time is a good one. If you arent kidding us, that is. ;)

Sandy Kaminski

9:27 pm on Saturday, August 27, 2011

The Kaminskis will be there to support Mayor Lloyd.

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Ed M

6:47 am on Sunday, August 28, 2011

" I don't see anything libelous in the flyers either - care to make any specific examples or just keep using big words you don't understand?"

Well Drew, nothing in the flyer is true therefore libelous.

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dormonter

9:20 am on Sunday, August 28, 2011

Linda, voter records are public information so that is easy to get through the county. Wouldn't surprise me if you did see the two clowns - putting their dopey heads together to come up with this trash? Councils errand boys?

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Leah Petrilli

2:19 pm on Sunday, August 28, 2011

This may be of interest.
http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/notices.shtml
From the Federal Election Commission rules on governing political ads and solicitations. Of particular interest is the section entitled disclaimer notices and definitions of public communications. So if the cowardly individuals behind the mass mailing(covered under the commission rules) was given legal counsel that this action was fully legal, perhaps your counsel was unaware of the Federal rules governing such activity?

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Leah Petrilli

2:22 pm on Sunday, August 28, 2011

How and Where must the Disclaimer Appear?
In order to give the reader sufficient notice about the person(s) paying for or authorizing a public communication regardless of its medium, the disclaimer notice must be "clear and conspicuous" on the committee's communications, solicitations and response materials. The notice will not be considered to be "clear and conspicuous" if:
•It is difficult to read or hear; or
•The notification is placed where it can be easily overlooked.

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